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Sunday, August 11th, 2024 - 11am Traditional Service - Guest Speaker Brad Yates - "Suffering Part 2"

August 11, 2024 · Brad Yates

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The passage this message was preached from, in full, with every other passage it reached for.

  • Luke 13 collective suffering and repentance, the biblical response to broad tragedies

    1 Now there were some present at the same time who told him about the Galileans, whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices.

    2 Jesus answered them, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered such things?

    3 I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all perish in the same way.

    4 Or those eighteen, on whom the tower in Siloam fell, and killed them; do you think that they were worse offenders than all the men who dwell in Jerusalem?

    5 I tell you, no, but, unless you repent, you will all perish in the same way.”

    6 He spoke this parable. “A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it, and found none.

    7 He said to the vine dresser, ‘Behold, these three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree, and found none. Cut it down. Why does it waste the soil?’

    8 He answered, ‘Lord, leave it alone this year also, until I dig around it, and fertilize it.

    9 If it bears fruit, fine; but if not, after that, you can cut it down.’”

    10 He was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath day.

    11 Behold, there was a woman who had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and she was bent over, and could in no way straighten herself up.

    12 When Jesus saw her, he called her, and said to her, “Woman, you are freed from your infirmity.”

    13 He laid his hands on her, and immediately she stood up straight, and glorified God.

    14 The ruler of the synagogue, being indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, said to the multitude, “There are six days in which men ought to work. Therefore come on those days and be healed, and not on the Sabbath day!”

    15 Therefore the Lord answered him, “You hypocrites! Doesn’t each one of you free his ox or his donkey from the stall on the Sabbath, and lead him away to water?

    16 Ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan had bound eighteen long years, be freed from this bondage on the Sabbath day?”

    17 As he said these things, all his adversaries were disappointed, and all the multitude rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by him.

    18 He said, “What is God’s Kingdom like? To what shall I compare it?

    19 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and put in his own garden. It grew, and became a large tree, and the birds of the sky live in its branches.”

    20 Again he said, “To what shall I compare God’s Kingdom?

    21 It is like yeast, which a woman took and hid in three measures of flour, until it was all leavened.”

    22 He went on his way through cities and villages, teaching, and traveling on to Jerusalem.

    23 One said to him, “Lord, are they few who are saved?” He said to them,

    24 “Strive to enter in by the narrow door, for many, I tell you, will seek to enter in, and will not be able.

    25 When once the master of the house has risen up, and has shut the door, and you begin to stand outside, and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ then he will answer and tell you, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’

    26 Then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.’

    27 He will say, ‘I tell you, I don’t know where you come from. Depart from me, all you workers of iniquity.’

    28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets, in God’s Kingdom, and yourselves being thrown outside.

    29 They will come from the east, west, north, and south, and will sit down in God’s Kingdom.

    30 Behold, there are some who are last who will be first, and there are some who are first who will be last.”

    31 On that same day, some Pharisees came, saying to him, “Get out of here, and go away, for Herod wants to kill you.”

    32 He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I complete my mission.

    33 Nevertheless I must go on my way today and tomorrow and the next day, for it can’t be that a prophet would perish outside of Jerusalem.’

    34 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that kills the prophets, and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, like a hen gathers her own brood under her wings, and you refused!

    35 Behold, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me, until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!’”

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Job 2:11-13

Job's three friends showing up, sitting with him in silence for seven days

11 Now when Job’s three friends heard of all this evil that had come on him, they each came from his own place: Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite; and they made an appointment together to come to sympathize with him and to comfort him.

12 When they lifted up their eyes from a distance, and didn’t recognize him, they raised their voices, and wept; and they each tore his robe, and sprinkled dust on their heads toward the sky.

13 So they sat down with him on the ground seven days and seven nights, and no one spoke a word to him, for they saw that his grief was very great.

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Ephesians 4

Christ gave apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers to equip his people for works of service

1 I therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beg you to walk worthily of the calling with which you were called,

2 with all lowliness and humility, with patience, bearing with one another in love;

3 being eager to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as you also were called in one hope of your calling;

5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism,

6 one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in us all.

7 But to each one of us was the grace given according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

8 Therefore he says, “When he ascended on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men.”

9 Now this, “He ascended”, what is it but that he also first descended into the lower parts of the earth?

10 He who descended is the one who also ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things.

11 He gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, shepherds and teachers;

12 for the perfecting of the saints, to the work of serving, to the building up of the body of Christ;

13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a full grown man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

14 that we may no longer be children, tossed back and forth and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in craftiness, after the wiles of error;

15 but speaking truth in love, we may grow up in all things into him, who is the head, Christ;

16 from whom all the body, being fitted and knit together through that which every joint supplies, according to the working in measure of each individual part, makes the body increase to the building up of itself in love.

17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles also walk, in the futility of their mind,

18 being darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardening of their hearts;

19 who having become callous gave themselves up to lust, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

20 But you did not learn Christ that way;

21 if indeed you heard him, and were taught in him, even as truth is in Jesus:

22 that you put away, as concerning your former way of life, the old man, that grows corrupt after the lusts of deceit;

23 and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind,

24 and put on the new man, who in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of truth.

25 Therefore putting away falsehood, speak truth each one with his neighbor. For we are members of one another.

26 “Be angry, and don’t sin.” Don’t let the sun go down on your wrath,

27 and don’t give place to the devil.

28 Let him who stole steal no more; but rather let him labor, producing with his hands something that is good, that he may have something to give to him who has need.

29 Let no corrupt speech proceed out of your mouth, but only what is good for building others up as the need may be, that it may give grace to those who hear.

30 Don’t grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, outcry, and slander, be put away from you, with all malice.

32 And be kind to one another, tender hearted, forgiving each other, just as God also in Christ forgave you.

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Romans 8:28

cited as an example of a 'ninja star verse' thrown at people who are suffering

28 We know that all things work together for good for those who love God, to those who are called according to his purpose.

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Philippians 2

Christ set aside equality with God to take on flesh and die for our sins

1 If therefore there is any exhortation in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any tender mercies and compassion,

2 make my joy full, by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind;

3 doing nothing through rivalry or through conceit, but in humility, each counting others better than himself;

4 each of you not just looking to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others.

5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Christ Jesus,

6 who, existing in the form of God, didn’t consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,

7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men.

8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, yes, the death of the cross.

9 Therefore God also highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name;

10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth,

11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

12 So then, my beloved, even as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

13 For it is God who works in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure.

14 Do all things without murmurings and disputes,

15 that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without defect in the middle of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you are seen as lights in the world,

16 holding up the word of life; that I may have something to boast in the day of Christ, that I didn’t run in vain nor labor in vain.

17 Yes, and if I am poured out on the sacrifice and service of your faith, I rejoice, and rejoice with you all.

18 In the same way, you also rejoice, and rejoice with me.

19 But I hope in the Lord Jesus to send Timothy to you soon, that I also may be cheered up when I know how you are doing.

20 For I have no one else like-minded, who will truly care about you.

21 For they all seek their own, not the things of Jesus Christ.

22 But you know the proof of him, that, as a child serves a father, so he served with me in furtherance of the Good News.

23 Therefore I hope to send him at once, as soon as I see how it will go with me.

24 But I trust in the Lord that I myself also will come shortly.

25 But I counted it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother, fellow worker, fellow soldier, and your apostle and servant of my need;

26 since he longed for you all, and was very troubled, because you had heard that he was sick.

27 For indeed he was sick, nearly to death, but God had mercy on him; and not on him only, but on me also, that I might not have sorrow on sorrow.

28 I have sent him therefore the more diligently, that, when you see him again, you may rejoice, and that I may be the less sorrowful.

29 Receive him therefore in the Lord with all joy, and hold such in honor,

30 because for the work of Christ he came near to death, risking his life to supply that which was lacking in your service toward me.

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Luke 21

Jesus promises his disciples they will be betrayed, hated, some put to death, yet not a hair of their head will perish

1 He looked up, and saw the rich people who were putting their gifts into the treasury.

2 He saw a certain poor widow casting in two small brass coins.

3 He said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow put in more than all of them,

4 for all these put in gifts for God from their abundance, but she, out of her poverty, put in all that she had to live on.”

5 As some were talking about the temple and how it was decorated with beautiful stones and gifts, he said,

6 “As for these things which you see, the days will come, in which there will not be left here one stone on another that will not be thrown down.”

7 They asked him, “Teacher, so when will these things be? What is the sign that these things are about to happen?”

8 He said, “Watch out that you don’t get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is at hand.’ Therefore don’t follow them.

9 When you hear of wars and disturbances, don’t be terrified, for these things must happen first, but the end won’t come immediately.”

10 Then he said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.

11 There will be great earthquakes, famines, and plagues in various places. There will be terrors and great signs from heaven.

12 But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and will persecute you, delivering you up to synagogues and prisons, bringing you before kings and governors for my name’s sake.

13 It will turn out as a testimony for you.

14 Settle it therefore in your hearts not to meditate beforehand how to answer,

15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom which all your adversaries will not be able to withstand or to contradict.

16 You will be handed over even by parents, brothers, relatives, and friends. They will cause some of you to be put to death.

17 You will be hated by all men for my name’s sake.

18 And not a hair of your head will perish.

19 “By your endurance you will win your lives.

20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is at hand.

21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let those who are in the middle of her depart. Let those who are in the country not enter therein.

22 For these are days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who nurse infants in those days! For there will be great distress in the land, and wrath to this people.

24 They will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

25 There will be signs in the sun, moon, and stars; and on the earth anxiety of nations, in perplexity for the roaring of the sea and the waves;

26 men fainting for fear, and for expectation of the things which are coming on the world: for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 But when these things begin to happen, look up, and lift up your heads, because your redemption is near.”

29 He told them a parable. “See the fig tree, and all the trees.

30 When they are already budding, you see it and know by your own selves that the summer is already near.

31 Even so you also, when you see these things happening, know that God’s Kingdom is near.

32 Most certainly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all things are accomplished.

33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will by no means pass away.

34 “So be careful, or your hearts will be loaded down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that day will come on you suddenly.

35 For it will come like a snare on all those who dwell on the surface of all the earth.

36 Therefore be watchful all the time, praying that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will happen, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

37 Every day Jesus was teaching in the temple, and every night he would go out and spend the night on the mountain that is called Olivet.

38 All the people came early in the morning to him in the temple to hear him.

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Luke 12

five sparrows sold for two pennies, hairs of your head all counted, do not fear

1 Meanwhile, when a multitude of many thousands had gathered together, so much so that they trampled on each other, he began to tell his disciples first of all, “Beware of the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

2 But there is nothing covered up, that will not be revealed, nor hidden, that will not be known.

3 Therefore whatever you have said in the darkness will be heard in the light. What you have spoken in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops.

4 “I tell you, my friends, don’t be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.

5 But I will warn you whom you should fear. Fear him, who after he has killed, has power to cast into Gehenna. Yes, I tell you, fear him.

6 “Aren’t five sparrows sold for two assaria coins? Not one of them is forgotten by God.

7 But the very hairs of your head are all counted. Therefore don’t be afraid. You are of more value than many sparrows.

8 “I tell you, everyone who confesses me before men, him will the Son of Man also confess before the angels of God;

9 but he who denies me in the presence of men will be denied in the presence of the angels of God.

10 Everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but those who blaspheme against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

11 When they bring you before the synagogues, the rulers, and the authorities, don’t be anxious how or what you will answer, or what you will say;

12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you in that same hour what you must say.”

13 One of the multitude said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”

14 But he said to him, “Man, who made me a judge or an arbitrator over you?”

15 He said to them, “Beware! Keep yourselves from covetousness, for a man’s life doesn’t consist of the abundance of the things which he possesses.”

16 He spoke a parable to them, saying, “The ground of a certain rich man produced abundantly.

17 He reasoned within himself, saying, ‘What will I do, because I don’t have room to store my crops?’

18 He said, ‘This is what I will do. I will pull down my barns, and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods.

19 I will tell my soul, “Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years. Take your ease, eat, drink, be merry.”’

20 “But God said to him, ‘You foolish one, tonight your soul is required of you. The things which you have prepared—whose will they be?’

21 So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.”

22 He said to his disciples, “Therefore I tell you, don’t be anxious for your life, what you will eat, nor yet for your body, what you will wear.

23 Life is more than food, and the body is more than clothing.

24 Consider the ravens: they don’t sow, they don’t reap, they have no warehouse or barn, and God feeds them. How much more valuable are you than birds!

25 Which of you by being anxious can add a cubit to his height?

26 If then you aren’t able to do even the least things, why are you anxious about the rest?

27 Consider the lilies, how they grow. They don’t toil, neither do they spin; yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

28 But if this is how God clothes the grass in the field, which today exists, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, how much more will he clothe you, O you of little faith?

29 Don’t seek what you will eat or what you will drink; neither be anxious.

30 For the nations of the world seek after all of these things, but your Father knows that you need these things.

31 But seek God’s Kingdom, and all these things will be added to you.

32 Don’t be afraid, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the Kingdom.

33 Sell that which you have, and give gifts to the needy. Make for yourselves purses which don’t grow old, a treasure in the heavens that doesn’t fail, where no thief approaches, neither moth destroys.

34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

35 “Let your waist be dressed and your lamps burning.

36 Be like men watching for their lord, when he returns from the marriage feast; that, when he comes and knocks, they may immediately open to him.

37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord will find watching when he comes. Most certainly I tell you, that he will dress himself, and make them recline, and will come and serve them.

38 They will be blessed if he comes in the second or third watch, and finds them so.

39 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what hour the thief was coming, he would have watched, and not allowed his house to be broken into.

40 Therefore be ready also, for the Son of Man is coming in an hour that you don’t expect him.”

41 Peter said to him, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everybody?”

42 The Lord said, “Who then is the faithful and wise steward, whom his lord will set over his household, to give them their portion of food at the right times?

43 Blessed is that servant whom his lord will find doing so when he comes.

44 Truly I tell you, that he will set him over all that he has.

45 But if that servant says in his heart, ‘My lord delays his coming,’ and begins to beat the menservants and the maidservants, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken,

46 then the lord of that servant will come in a day when he isn’t expecting him, and in an hour that he doesn’t know, and will cut him in two, and place his portion with the unfaithful.

47 That servant, who knew his lord’s will, and didn’t prepare, nor do what he wanted, will be beaten with many stripes,

48 but he who didn’t know, and did things worthy of stripes, will be beaten with few stripes. To whomever much is given, of him will much be required; and to whom much was entrusted, of him more will be asked.

49 “I came to throw fire on the earth. I wish it were already kindled.

50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished!

51 Do you think that I have come to give peace in the…

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Luke 13

Tower of Siloam, eternal perishing

1 Now there were some present at the same time who told him about the Galileans, whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices.

2 Jesus answered them, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered such things?

3 I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all perish in the same way.

4 Or those eighteen, on whom the tower in Siloam fell, and killed them; do you think that they were worse offenders than all the men who dwell in Jerusalem?

5 I tell you, no, but, unless you repent, you will all perish in the same way.”

6 He spoke this parable. “A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it, and found none.

7 He said to the vine dresser, ‘Behold, these three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree, and found none. Cut it down. Why does it waste the soil?’

8 He answered, ‘Lord, leave it alone this year also, until I dig around it, and fertilize it.

9 If it bears fruit, fine; but if not, after that, you can cut it down.’”

10 He was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath day.

11 Behold, there was a woman who had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and she was bent over, and could in no way straighten herself up.

12 When Jesus saw her, he called her, and said to her, “Woman, you are freed from your infirmity.”

13 He laid his hands on her, and immediately she stood up straight, and glorified God.

14 The ruler of the synagogue, being indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, said to the multitude, “There are six days in which men ought to work. Therefore come on those days and be healed, and not on the Sabbath day!”

15 Therefore the Lord answered him, “You hypocrites! Doesn’t each one of you free his ox or his donkey from the stall on the Sabbath, and lead him away to water?

16 Ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan had bound eighteen long years, be freed from this bondage on the Sabbath day?”

17 As he said these things, all his adversaries were disappointed, and all the multitude rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by him.

18 He said, “What is God’s Kingdom like? To what shall I compare it?

19 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and put in his own garden. It grew, and became a large tree, and the birds of the sky live in its branches.”

20 Again he said, “To what shall I compare God’s Kingdom?

21 It is like yeast, which a woman took and hid in three measures of flour, until it was all leavened.”

22 He went on his way through cities and villages, teaching, and traveling on to Jerusalem.

23 One said to him, “Lord, are they few who are saved?” He said to them,

24 “Strive to enter in by the narrow door, for many, I tell you, will seek to enter in, and will not be able.

25 When once the master of the house has risen up, and has shut the door, and you begin to stand outside, and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ then he will answer and tell you, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’

26 Then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.’

27 He will say, ‘I tell you, I don’t know where you come from. Depart from me, all you workers of iniquity.’

28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets, in God’s Kingdom, and yourselves being thrown outside.

29 They will come from the east, west, north, and south, and will sit down in God’s Kingdom.

30 Behold, there are some who are last who will be first, and there are some who are first who will be last.”

31 On that same day, some Pharisees came, saying to him, “Get out of here, and go away, for Herod wants to kill you.”

32 He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I complete my mission.

33 Nevertheless I must go on my way today and tomorrow and the next day, for it can’t be that a prophet would perish outside of Jerusalem.’

34 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that kills the prophets, and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, like a hen gathers her own brood under her wings, and you refused!

35 Behold, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me, until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!’”

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Psalm 22:1

my God my God why have you forsaken me, what Jesus cried from the cross and what David wrote

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from helping me, and from the words of my groaning?

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Psalm 13

how long O Lord will you forget me forever, how long will you hide your face

1 How long, Yahweh? Will you forget me forever? How long will you hide your face from me?

2 How long shall I take counsel in my soul, having sorrow in my heart every day? How long shall my enemy triumph over me?

3 Behold, and answer me, Yahweh, my God. Give light to my eyes, lest I sleep in death;

4 Lest my enemy say, “I have prevailed against him”; Lest my adversaries rejoice when I fall.

5 But I trust in your loving kindness. My heart rejoices in your salvation.

6 I will sing to Yahweh, because he has been good to me.

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Psalm 34

the Lord is near the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit

1 I will bless Yahweh at all times. His praise will always be in my mouth.

2 My soul shall boast in Yahweh. The humble shall hear of it, and be glad.

3 Oh magnify Yahweh with me. Let us exalt his name together.

4 I sought Yahweh, and he answered me, and delivered me from all my fears.

5 They looked to him, and were radiant. Their faces shall never be covered with shame.

6 This poor man cried, and Yahweh heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles.

7 Yahweh’s angel encamps around those who fear him, and delivers them.

8 Oh taste and see that Yahweh is good. Blessed is the man who takes refuge in him.

9 Oh fear Yahweh, you his saints, for there is no lack with those who fear him.

10 The young lions do lack, and suffer hunger, but those who seek Yahweh shall not lack any good thing.

11 Come, you children, listen to me. I will teach you the fear of Yahweh.

12 Who is someone who desires life, and loves many days, that he may see good?

13 Keep your tongue from evil, and your lips from speaking lies.

14 Depart from evil, and do good. seek peace, and pursue it.

15 Yahweh’s eyes are toward the righteous. His ears listen to their cry.

16 Yahweh’s face is against those who do evil, to cut off their memory from the earth.

17 The righteous cry, and Yahweh hears, and delivers them out of all their troubles.

18 Yahweh is near to those who have a broken heart, and saves those who have a crushed spirit.

19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but Yahweh delivers him out of them all.

20 He protects all of his bones. Not one of them is broken.

21 Evil shall kill the wicked. Those who hate the righteous shall be condemned.

22 Yahweh redeems the soul of his servants. None of those who take refuge in him shall be condemned.

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Mark 9

father of the dying child saying I believe but help my unbelief

1 He said to them, “Most certainly I tell you, there are some standing here who will in no way taste death until they see God’s Kingdom come with power.”

2 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James, and John, and brought them up onto a high mountain privately by themselves, and he was changed into another form in front of them.

3 His clothing became glistening, exceedingly white, like snow, such as no launderer on earth can whiten them.

4 Elijah and Moses appeared to them, and they were talking with Jesus.

5 Peter answered Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here. Let’s make three tents: one for you, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”

6 For he didn’t know what to say, for they were very afraid.

7 A cloud came, overshadowing them, and a voice came out of the cloud, “This is my beloved Son. Listen to him.”

8 Suddenly looking around, they saw no one with them any more, except Jesus only.

9 As they were coming down from the mountain, he commanded them that they should tell no one what things they had seen, until after the Son of Man had risen from the dead.

10 They kept this saying to themselves, questioning what the “rising from the dead” meant.

11 They asked him, saying, “Why do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”

12 He said to them, “Elijah indeed comes first, and restores all things. How is it written about the Son of Man, that he should suffer many things and be despised?

13 But I tell you that Elijah has come, and they have also done to him whatever they wanted to, even as it is written about him.”

14 Coming to the disciples, he saw a great multitude around them, and scribes questioning them.

15 Immediately all the multitude, when they saw him, were greatly amazed, and running to him, greeted him.

16 He asked the scribes, “What are you asking them?”

17 One of the multitude answered, “Teacher, I brought to you my son, who has a mute spirit;

18 and wherever it seizes him, it throws him down, and he foams at the mouth, and grinds his teeth, and wastes away. I asked your disciples to cast it out, and they weren’t able.”

19 He answered him, “Unbelieving generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him to me.”

20 They brought him to him, and when he saw him, immediately the spirit convulsed him, and he fell on the ground, wallowing and foaming at the mouth.

21 He asked his father, “How long has it been since this has come to him?” He said, “From childhood.

22 Often it has cast him both into the fire and into the water, to destroy him. But if you can do anything, have compassion on us, and help us.”

23 Jesus said to him, “If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.”

24 Immediately the father of the child cried out with tears, “I believe. Help my unbelief!”

25 When Jesus saw that a multitude came running together, he rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to him, “You mute and deaf spirit, I command you, come out of him, and never enter him again!”

26 After crying out and convulsing him greatly, it came out of him. The boy became like one dead; so much that most of them said, “He is dead.”

27 But Jesus took him by the hand, and raised him up; and he arose.

28 When he had come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, “Why couldn’t we cast it out?”

29 He said to them, “This kind can come out by nothing, except by prayer and fasting.”

30 They went out from there, and passed through Galilee. He didn’t want anyone to know it.

31 For he was teaching his disciples, and said to them, “The Son of Man is being handed over to the hands of men, and they will kill him; and when he is killed, on the third day he will rise again.”

32 But they didn’t understand the saying, and were afraid to ask him.

33 He came to Capernaum, and when he was in the house he asked them, “What were you arguing among yourselves on the way?”

34 But they were silent, for they had disputed one with another on the way about who was the greatest.

35 He sat down, and called the twelve; and he said to them, “If any man wants to be first, he shall be last of all, and servant of all.”

36 He took a little child, and set him in the middle of them. Taking him in his arms, he said to them,

37 “Whoever receives one such little child in my name, receives me, and whoever receives me, doesn’t receive me, but him who sent me.”

38 John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone who doesn’t follow us casting out demons in your name; and we forbade him, because he doesn’t follow us.”

39 But Jesus said, “Don’t forbid him, for there is no one who will do a mighty work in my name, and be able quickly to speak evil of me.

40 For whoever is not against us is on our side.

41 For whoever will give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because you are Christ’s, most certainly I tell you, he will in no way lose his reward.

42 Whoever will cause one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him if he were thrown into the sea with a millstone hung around his neck.

43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having your two hands to go into Gehenna, into the unquenchable fire,

44 ‘where their worm doesn’t die, and the fire is not quenched.’

45 If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life lame, rather than having your two feet to be cast into Gehenna, into the fire that will never be quenched—

46 ‘where their worm doesn’t die, and the fire is not quenched.’

47 If your eye causes you to stumble, cast it out. It is better for you to enter into God’s Kingdom with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into the Gehenna of fire,

48 ‘where their worm doesn’t die, and the fire is not quenched.’

49 For everyone will be salted with fire, and every sacrifice will be seasoned with salt.

50 Salt is good, but if the salt has lost its saltiness, with what will you season it? Have salt in yourselves, and be at peace with one another.”

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John 11

shortest verse in the Bible, Jesus wept

1 Now a certain man was sick, Lazarus from Bethany, of the village of Mary and her sister, Martha.

2 It was that Mary who had anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother, Lazarus, was sick.

3 The sisters therefore sent to him, saying, “Lord, behold, he for whom you have great affection is sick.”

4 But when Jesus heard it, he said, “This sickness is not to death, but for the glory of God, that God’s Son may be glorified by it.”

5 Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.

6 When therefore he heard that he was sick, he stayed two days in the place where he was.

7 Then after this he said to the disciples, “Let’s go into Judea again.”

8 The disciples told him, “Rabbi, the Jews were just trying to stone you, and are you going there again?”

9 Jesus answered, “Aren’t there twelve hours of daylight? If a man walks in the day, he doesn’t stumble, because he sees the light of this world.

10 But if a man walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light isn’t in him.”

11 He said these things, and after that, he said to them, “Our friend, Lazarus, has fallen asleep, but I am going so that I may awake him out of sleep.”

12 The disciples therefore said, “Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover.”

13 Now Jesus had spoken of his death, but they thought that he spoke of taking rest in sleep.

14 So Jesus said to them plainly then, “Lazarus is dead.

15 I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, so that you may believe. Nevertheless, let’s go to him.”

16 Thomas therefore, who is called Didymus, said to his fellow disciples, “Let’s go also, that we may die with him.”

17 So when Jesus came, he found that he had been in the tomb four days already.

18 Now Bethany was near Jerusalem, about fifteen stadia away.

19 Many of the Jews had joined the women around Martha and Mary, to console them concerning their brother.

20 Then when Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went and met him, but Mary stayed in the house.

21 Therefore Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if you would have been here, my brother wouldn’t have died.

22 Even now I know that, whatever you ask of God, God will give you.”

23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”

24 Martha said to him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will still live, even if he dies.

26 Whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

27 She said to him, “Yes, Lord. I have come to believe that you are the Christ, God’s Son, he who comes into the world.”

28 When she had said this, she went away, and called Mary, her sister, secretly, saying, “The Teacher is here, and is calling you.”

29 When she heard this, she arose quickly, and went to him.

30 Now Jesus had not yet come into the village, but was in the place where Martha met him.

31 Then the Jews who were with her in the house, and were consoling her, when they saw Mary, that she rose up quickly and went out, followed her, saying, “She is going to the tomb to weep there.”

32 Therefore when Mary came to where Jesus was, and saw him, she fell down at his feet, saying to him, “Lord, if you would have been here, my brother wouldn’t have died.”

33 When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews weeping who came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled,

34 and said, “Where have you laid him?” They told him, “Lord, come and see.”

35 Jesus wept.

36 The Jews therefore said, “See how much affection he had for him!”

37 Some of them said, “Couldn’t this man, who opened the eyes of him who was blind, have also kept this man from dying?”

38 Jesus therefore, again groaning in himself, came to the tomb. Now it was a cave, and a stone lay against it.

39 Jesus said, “Take away the stone.” Martha, the sister of him who was dead, said to him, “Lord, by this time there is a stench, for he has been dead four days.”

40 Jesus said to her, “Didn’t I tell you that if you believed, you would see God’s glory?”

41 So they took away the stone from the place where the dead man was lying. Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, “Father, I thank you that you listened to me.

42 I know that you always listen to me, but because of the multitude standing around I said this, that they may believe that you sent me.”

43 When he had said this, he cried with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”

44 He who was dead came out, bound hand and foot with wrappings, and his face was wrapped around with a cloth. Jesus said to them, “Free him, and let him go.”

45 Therefore many of the Jews, who came to Mary and saw what Jesus did, believed in him.

46 But some of them went away to the Pharisees, and told them the things which Jesus had done.

47 The chief priests therefore and the Pharisees gathered a council, and said, “What are we doing? For this man does many signs.

48 If we leave him alone like this, everyone will believe in him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.”

49 But a certain one of them, Caiaphas, being high priest that year, said to them, “You know nothing at all,

50 nor do you consider that it is advantageous for us that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation not perish.”

51 Now he didn’t say this of himself, but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation,

52 and not for the nation only, but that he might also gather together into one the children of God who are scattered abroad.

53 So from that day forward they took counsel that they might put him to death.

54 Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews, but departed from there into the country near the wilderness, to a city called Ephraim. He stayed there with his disciples.

55 Now the Passover of the Jews was at hand. Many went up from the country to Jerusalem before the Passover, to purify themselves.

56 Then they sought for Jesus and spoke one with another, as they stood in the temple, “What do you…

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Hebrews 12

Jesus endured the cross for the joy set before him, despising the shame

1 Therefore let us also, seeing we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, lay aside every weight and the sin which so easily entangles us, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us,

2 looking to Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising its shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

3 For consider him who has endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, that you don’t grow weary, fainting in your souls.

4 You have not yet resisted to blood, striving against sin;

5 and you have forgotten the exhortation which reasons with you as with children, “My son, don’t take lightly the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are reproved by him;

6 For whom the Lord loves, he chastens, and scourges every son whom he receives.”

7 It is for discipline that you endure. God deals with you as with children, for what son is there whom his father doesn’t discipline?

8 But if you are without discipline, of which all have been made partakers, then are you illegitimate, and not children.

9 Furthermore, we had the fathers of our flesh to chasten us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live?

10 For they indeed, for a few days, punished us as seemed good to them; but he for our profit, that we may be partakers of his holiness.

11 All chastening seems for the present to be not joyous but grievous; yet afterward it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been exercised thereby.

12 Therefore lift up the hands that hang down and the feeble knees,

13 and make straight paths for your feet, so what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed.

14 Follow after peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no man will see the Lord,

15 looking carefully lest there be any man who falls short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and many be defiled by it;

16 lest there be any sexually immoral person, or profane person, like Esau, who sold his birthright for one meal.

17 For you know that even when he afterward desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for a change of mind though he sought it diligently with tears.

18 For you have not come to a mountain that might be touched, and that burned with fire, and to blackness, darkness, storm,

19 the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which those who heard it begged that not one more word should be spoken to them,

20 for they could not stand that which was commanded, “If even an animal touches the mountain, it shall be stoned”;

21 and so fearful was the appearance that Moses said, “I am terrified and trembling.”

22 But you have come to Mount Zion, and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable multitudes of angels,

23 to the festal gathering and assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect,

24 to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better than that of Abel.

25 See that you don’t refuse him who speaks. For if they didn’t escape when they refused him who warned on the earth, how much more will we not escape who turn away from him who warns from heaven,

26 whose voice shook the earth then, but now he has promised, saying, “Yet once more I will shake not only the earth, but also the heavens.”

27 This phrase, “Yet once more”, signifies the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that have been made, that those things which are not shaken may remain.

28 Therefore, receiving a Kingdom that can’t be shaken, let us have grace, through which we serve God acceptably, with reverence and awe,

29 for our God is a consuming fire.

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Daniel 3

Shadrach Meshach Abednego in the furnace, a fourth figure seen in the fire like a son of the gods

1 Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was sixty cubits, and its width six cubits. He set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

2 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king sent to gather together the satraps, the deputies, and the governors, the judges, the treasurers, the counselors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.

3 Then the satraps, the deputies, and the governors, the judges, the treasurers, the counselors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together to the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up.

4 Then the herald cried aloud, “To you it is commanded, peoples, nations, and languages,

5 that whenever you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, and all kinds of music, you fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king has set up.

6 Whoever doesn’t fall down and worship shall be cast into the middle of a burning fiery furnace the same hour.”

7 Therefore at that time, when all the peoples heard the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, and all kinds of music, all the peoples, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshiped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.

8 Therefore at that time certain Chaldeans came near, and brought accusation against the Jews.

9 They answered Nebuchadnezzar the king, “O king, live for ever!

10 You, O king, have made a decree, that every man that hears the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, and all kinds of music, shall fall down and worship the golden image;

11 and whoever doesn’t fall down and worship shall be cast into the middle of a burning fiery furnace.

12 There are certain Jews whom you have appointed over the affairs of the province of Babylon: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. These men, O king, have not respected you. They don’t serve your gods, and don’t worship the golden image which you have set up.”

13 Then Nebuchadnezzar in rage and fury commanded that Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego be brought. Then these men were brought before the king.

14 Nebuchadnezzar answered them, “Is it on purpose, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, that you don’t serve my god, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?

15 Now if you are ready whenever you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, and all kinds of music to fall down and worship the image which I have made, good; but if you don’t worship, you shall be cast the same hour into the middle of a burning fiery furnace. Who is that god that will deliver you out of my hands?”

16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego answered the king, “Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter.

17 If it happens, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace; and he will deliver us out of your hand, O king.

18 But if not, let it be known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden image which you have set up.”

19 Then Nebuchadnezzar was full of fury, and the form of his appearance was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. He spoke, and commanded that they should heat the furnace seven times more than it was usually heated.

20 He commanded certain mighty men who were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.

21 Then these men were bound in their pants, their tunics, and their mantles, and their other clothes, and were cast into the middle of the burning fiery furnace.

22 Therefore because the king’s commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire killed those men who took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

23 These three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the middle of the burning fiery furnace.

24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonished, and rose up in haste. He spoke and said to his counselors, “Didn’t we cast three men bound into the middle of the fire?” They answered the king, “True, O king.”

25 He answered, “Look, I see four men loose, walking in the middle of the fire, and they are unharmed. The appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods.”

26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace. He spoke and said, “Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, you servants of the Most High God, come out, and come here!” Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego came out of the middle of the fire.

27 The satraps, the deputies, and the governors, and the king’s counselors, being gathered together, saw these men, that the fire had no power on their bodies. The hair of their head wasn’t singed. Their pants weren’t changed, the smell of fire wasn’t even on them.

28 Nebuchadnezzar spoke and said, “Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who has sent his angel, and delivered his servants who trusted in him, and have changed the king’s word, and have yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.

29 Therefore I make a decree, that every people, nation, and language, which speak anything evil against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill; because there is no other god who is able to deliver like this.”

30 Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the province of Babylon.

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2 Corinthians 1:3-5

God comforts us in our troubles so that we can comfort others with the same comfort he gave us

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort;

4 who comforts us in all our affliction, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, through the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound to us, even so our comfort also abounds through Christ.

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Recap

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This was part two of Brad Yates's series on suffering, preached at First B Jackson on August 11, 2024. Where part one addressed why a good God permits evil and suffering, this message turned to the practical question of what we are actually supposed to do, whether suffering is happening around us or to us. Brad worked through three scenarios: collective tragedy, others suffering, and our own personal suffering.

What was said

Brad opened by recapping the ground covered the week before. Suffering is real but not meaningless. God does not penalize believers for their sin because Jesus paid that price in full at the cross, and God cannot accept double payment. That settled, Brad moved the conversation from the theological to the personal.

On collective tragedy, the biblical response is repentance, not analysis of who deserved what. Brad acknowledged this cuts against Western sensibilities, but pointed out that the instinct to exempt ourselves from judgment carries a measure of self-justification. The consistent pattern in scripture is that calamity, whether falling on Israel or pagan nations, is a call to turn back to God.

When it comes to others who are suffering, Brad's first point was blunt: this is not someone else's job. The church staff exists to equip the congregation for ministry, not to do it on everyone's behalf. The "one another" commands of scripture belong to every believer. The most effective thing anyone can do is show up and listen, which Brad also put more memorably as "show up and shut up."

He then walked through a list of common mistakes. Asking "how can I help?" sounds kind but puts a creative burden on someone whose brain is already overwhelmed. Better to offer something specific: a meal on a particular day, a task you can simply do. If you say you will pray, pray right then. And resist the urge to be profound. Brad called out the habit of throwing what he named "ninja star verses," like Romans 8:28, at someone in acute pain. Truth applied to an open wound is not medicine, it is poison. He also went directly after prosperity-gospel thinking: a person's failure to be healed on their expected timeline is not evidence of insufficient faith.

For personal suffering, Brad turned to Luke 21, where Jesus promises his disciples they will be hated, some killed, and yet "not a hair of your head will perish." Rather than a contradiction, Brad read this as Jesus pointing back to his earlier teaching about sparrows: martyrdom itself is not outside God's sovereignty, and the eternal perishing is what believers need not fear. He noted the practical upside of this, that a Christian is effectively immortal until God is finished with them, which he called a genuine answer to anxiety.

Brad drew on David's life to show that suffering takes many different forms, and what made David a man after God's own heart was not that he sought healing first but that he kept seeking God. He pointed to Psalm 22, Psalm 13, and Psalm 34 as evidence that raw honesty with God is not only permitted but modeled in scripture. The cry "I believe, help my unbelief" from Mark 9 was his suggestion for anyone who feels too broken to know what to pray. He was also direct that there is no biblical timeline for mourning, and that our culture's pressure to return quickly to productivity does real damage.

Brad closed on joy in suffering, drawing on John Piper's definition: Christian joy is a good feeling in the soul produced by the Holy Spirit as he causes us to see the beauty of Christ. This is not something manufactured in a crisis but built over a lifetime of looking at Christ, which is why it can hold in the worst moments. He used the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego to make the final point: Nebuchadnezzar threw three men into the fire and saw four. The confidence of the three was not in the rescue God might provide but in who God is. Brad's closing word to the congregation was that the same is true for them, and that First B itself, the people in the room, is part of what God uses to ensure that no one faces the fire alone.

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  2. Brad drew a distinction between God penalizing us for sin and God disciplining us. Has that distinction ever mattered to you personally in a season of difficulty, and how did it change the way you processed what was happening?

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Speaker 3The first announcement is that there's two songs before announcements because I was in the back on the other side of the church, heard the music stop after the first song, and ran over here to find it wasn't time for announcements. So let everybody know. There's two songs before announcements in the second service. The first BBQ is coming back around August 18 between services. Feel free to come early.
The food is provided and it's a great chance for the second service to mix with the first. The first service was completely packed full of people today. What a blessing. So so many cool people to come and meet on the eighteenth to to know about the people from the first service. The first b church camp out is August twenty third through twenty fifth at Palisades Lakes.
Everybody is invited. If you're new, if you've been here a long time, doesn't matter, come hang out. And if you don't wanna stay the night, you can just come for the day and and participate that way. But bring your own camping gear, bring your own food, something to share, and make a friend. Why not?
Sunday school will not be for the third through fifth graders during the summer, but we'll have it for the other ages including middle school and high school. They had theirs today and that went off smashingly. And Old Bills Fund Run is coming up for those of you who don't know on what is it? September, I think it's like twelve, thirteenth. It's the ninth this year.
They have a whole bunch of people that'll be running on Town square, raising money for all the nonprofits in town. And First Be has a benevolence fund that we use to help people out. Almost every day here, we have people coming in seeking medical needs, money to get someplace, food. And it's a big open door for us to share the gospel and to be able to really help people and say yes. So you can make contributions to that through the link on our website if you want to or if you wanna do like cash or something like that, you can do that over at the community foundation.
If you ever have any questions about how we use it, feel free to talk to any of the staff members. There's lots of stories that we can share with people because it really is a big open door. Thank you for giving to them.
Speaker 2And I am, Joe, just
Speaker 3for Please. I wanna take just
Speaker 2a moment to recognize Nick and Diane. They're our frontline people as people Yeah.
Speaker 3And and thank you for making that possible. And the Community Foundation of Jackson Hall also did give us a grant of $5,000 this year too, which helps out. It's a that's a small portion of what we give away each year, but every little bit counts. So thank you very much for helping us out. But and Scott Schneider, who's not here in this service, but if you see him, tell me you love him.
He's such a great volunteer. He was recognized by the Wyoming Community Heroes Organization, and he's their volunteer of the month. He actually helped us out two weeks ago or something like that. He drove over to River Riverton, just dropped everything, drove over to River Riverton to pick up a lady who needed to catch a bus here in Jackson. And he just, without question, just went.
And through the benevolence fund, Diane was able to give him gas and and money money to get there, and he just went. So tell him you love him and and thank him. Yeah. Give him give him a round of applause even though he's not here. Scott, we love you, buddy.
And there is the Women of Legacy luncheon over at the Presbyterian Church of Jackson Hole. There's information on the flyer in the back if you wanna be a part of that. The Turpin family is helping to put that together. And then the church wide emails. If you are new here, you may not know, but we put out our weekly bulletin electronically now.
So if you wanna sign up for that, you can go on the website. I can help you get that too. Or if you wanna study do the the daily Bible studies that are Monday through Friday that are written by people from the congregation, you can go on the website and sign up for that too. Oh, and they're also looking for more people to write too. You can talk to to Brad Yates who's speaking today, and he can help you with that.
And that's it for us. Have we missed anything? It was kind of a lot today. No? Alright.
Well, why don't you stand up and let's continue worshiping together. What's that? Bonderay. Oh, yes. There is.
Thank you, Blake. There is a big worship gathering down in Bondurant, August 31 through September 1. It's a hootenanny. The Tolsons are putting that on, and it's it's supposed to be a whole bunch of fun. There's a bunch of information on our website about that.
But if you play music or just enjoy music and want to take part in that celebration, there's some camping down there and food and the whole whole thing. So let's go ahead and start back with some music.
Speaker 2Let's sing that through one more time together. Sweet power of prayer. You can be seated here, and I'll invite the ushers to come forward. And this is the worship through giving part of the service, and I would love to pray together. I had a verse that I wanna share.
But can I repeat just what we've sang here first? In seasons of distress and grief, my soul has often found relief in prayer. And since he be bids me seek seek his face, believe his word, and trust his grace. Boy, that's rich. And, Lord, we thank you.
And would you help us, Lord, in seasons of grief and despair at every time and every season, whether in joy or pain, Lord, that we would come to you trusting trusting in your goodness, trusting in your provision, trusting in your grace. And I think of the verse, and do not forget to thank you. Lord, we are grateful. And may gratitude be something that's welling up, Lord, and and spilling out because we are. Lord, I'm overwhelmed by the the the generosity of of this church body here, Each individual using the gifts that have been given to love you and to love others.
This the the this great command that you've given us to truly to love you with our heart, soul, mind, strength, to love our neighbor as we love ourself. Lord, would the work continue? Would you use us, your willing and obedient servants, to advance your kingdom? And we pray this in Jesus' name. Amen.
I wanted to quickly introduce one of our elders. This is Brad Yates, and he gave a sermon last week. It was part one on a series on suffering, and today is part two. But I would love to just pray for him first. It's not an easy task to stand up here in front of people and and preach.
And and and so I'm grateful for you, Brad. And let me just pray. Lord Jesus, we thank you for this morning and the opportunity to gather here as the family of God around your word. Thank you. And thank you, God, for a message that is deeply personal and practical.
And, Lord, may the the truths in scripture land land on a soft and malleable heart this morning in all of us. And thank you, God, for your encouragement, for your love, for your care, and your comfort, for your people. And I pray, Lord, that we would walk away feeling exactly that. In Jesus' name, amen. Good
Brad Yatesmorning. Good morning. A little cooler in here, thankfully, this week. Last week, we looked at the global problem of suffering and the Christian response to it. If you missed it, it's the idea that suffering and evil do exist.
So how do we reconcile the existence of a personal, all powerful, and all good God with the fact that evil does exist? And the answer is love. God loves us and is patient with us. Because of sin, evil is so intrinsically intertwined with our very being. It's so deeply rooted in our hearts that if God were to eliminate all evil from the world today, he would have to kill those that he loves.
But God is patient, and he's made a provision for evil. And he uses the suffering in the world for our good and ultimately for his glory. In summary, suffering is real, but it is not meaningless. God will not waste your suffering. And when people say that they can't believe in a God that would allow x to happen, what they're really saying is they can't believe in a God that is beyond their own comprehension.
And when I reframe it that way, it's obviously illogical. How could we as finite creatures ever begin to understand an infinite God? But it's okay to admit that you can't imagine what God is doing in the midst of something. It's okay even to be angry at God. The good news is it's hard to be angry at somebody that you either don't think exists or isn't in control.
So you can actually have good theology, good doctrine in the midst of your anger at God. And I wanna circle back at an incredibly important point from last week, is that there is a huge difference between the penalty for our sin and God's discipline. If you are in Christ, if you have a saving faith, God does not penalize you for your sin. If you learn nothing else from this week, I want you to hear me on that. If you have a saving faith in Jesus Christ, he is not penalizing you for your sin.
He does, however, discipline us and allow bad things to happen to us, but they will be redeemed. Because Jesus paid the price in full at the cross for our sin. God cannot accept double payment for it. That would be unjust, and God is just. That said, there are consequences for sin in the world.
If you consistently make bad and destructive choices, it will not go well for you. But that is very different from saying that God is punishing you. Because if you're in Christ, God does not punish you for your sin. You may, in wisdom and love, be subject to God's discipline. He may be choosing to shape you like a potter molds clay to prepare you for something that if he were to tell you, you still wouldn't be able to believe it.
And there were two quotes on this last week that I really liked, one from Tim Keller and one from John Piper. And we'll look at them again this week because they were so good. And I had several people tell me they wanted me to hear it again. It's the high is it the highest good that we be comfortable and without trouble or that we become spiritually and morally great? Is the highest good that we become come or that we be comfortable and without trouble or that we become spiritually and morally great?
And from John Piper, God is always doing 10,000 things in your life, and if you're lucky, you may notice three of them. In contrast, think about the people that you know that have had nothing but ease and comfort in their life. Are those the people that you need on your side when life is about to get hard? No. People that have only had ease in their life are more self absorbed, they're more thin skinned, and they're more easily disrupted.
If I'm going into a fight, a physical fight, and I get to pick somebody on my team, I'm not picking the guy that's done nothing but yoga and get massages. I'm picking the guy that's had his nose broken a few times and his ears don't lay flat anymore. And the same thing is true spiritually. We want the Christians with scars to be on our side. The irony, of course, is that none of us want to go through what needs to happen in order to become that person.
I don't even want it for my kids. I try so hard to protect them from suffering. But if I'm clear eyed about it, I'll admit that more often than not, the way God shapes his saints throughout the course of scripture is through deep suffering. That's how we actually become functional and useful for the kingdom of God. So how can evil and suffering work for our good?
We don't always know. And yet, God does tell us that it works for our good. And he, not us, is the one with the eternal perspective, with perfect knowledge. And why can we trust this? Why can we trust the Bible on this?
It's because ultimately of Jesus. Because God loved us so much that he sent his only an eternal son to die on the cross for us. And since he's done that, we have no other logical choice but to trust him. As as it says in Philippians two, he set aside a quality with God to take on flesh and to die for our sins. So why do we believe in God?
Or why do we believe God in these things? It's because of the cross and the empty tomb and the apostles and the promises and the prophecies and the entire biblical record of God being faithful to us. So that's our review of last week. If you didn't catch it, it's on the First Bee YouTube page under the live tab or email me and I can get it to you. But this week, what are you supposed to do when you or someone close to you is suffering?
Now we're going to look at this in three different ways. We're going to look at it in three different scenarios, I should say. One is collective suffering, the second is when others are suffering, and the third is for yourself. Now collective is gonna be quick because it's really a pretty straightforward application. But we need to talk about what happens when regional or national tragedies strike.
If it affects you or someone directly close to you, then that's what we'll cover later in the conversation. But in terms of, like, broad tragedies, the biblical solution to broad tragedies is always repentance. We can't be in charge of how our nation responds, but we can be in charge of how we respond. And we saw this last week in Luke 13 that we don't actually like this idea very much because it runs afoul of our Western sensibilities. It seems unfair, as it were, for God to judge an entire nation.
And yet, there's more than just a hint of self justification in that. Instead, we can remind ourselves that we should be glad that God doesn't give us what we deserve Because what we're all deserving of is death. We can instead remind ourselves that Christ died for your sins too. Or I can be telling myself that Christ died for mine. And it's not just for my favorite pet sin that I think is is the epitome of evil and things like that.
It's also for the thoughts that I've had just on my way to worship this morning. Christ died for those too. So we can all repent and we can all pray. But we can use those moments of collective suffering with renewed vigor to bring ourselves to God. And to be clear, this is true in the Bible for both Israel and of enemy pagan nations.
God brought calamity upon them both. So just because a tragedy happens in large scale, it doesn't mean God is done using that nation. God chastened Israel time and time again. God sent Jonah with a message of repentance to Nineveh, and Nineveh famously repented that time. But Sodom and Gomorrah did not.
Nineveh was spared. Sodom and Gomorrah was judged, and God is sovereign over both of them. So that's the biblical view on collective suffering and tragedies. Now we'll look to the more personal side. Let's look now at individuals.
What do we do when others are suffering? And for that, we're gonna look first in Job two eleven through 13. You're welcome to turn to it or you can see it up here on the screen. I'll read to you. Now when Job's three friends heard about all this adversity that had come upon him, they came each from his own place and they made an appointment together to come and sympathize and comfort with him.
When they looked from a distance and did not recognize him, they raised their voices and wept. And each of them tore his robe, and they threw dust over their heads towards the sky. Then they sat down on the ground with him for seven days and seven nights, with no one so much as speaking a word to them, for they saw that his pain was very great. Our first point here is that this is not a job for somebody else. This is your job.
Not just me, not just Ray or any of the other elders, not even for anybody just on staff. This is for you, for each of us. And I get that from Ephesians four. So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors, the teachers. Why?
To equip his people for works of service so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the son of God and become mature. We in church leadership, we actually exist here to coach you up, to train you up for the works of ministry. And that's part of what we're doing here today. We're gathered here to worship God together collectively. That's why we call it corporate worship.
But we're also training one another up in how to live this out. And since we're talking about the one another's, I think that's the great model for us to look at. If you're not familiar with the concept, there's 59 or so. I have them here. One another's of scripture.
This is the way that the Bible sums up our call as Christians for how to relate to one another. Things like love one another, wash one another's feet, be devoted to one another in brotherly love, love one another, live in harmony with one another. One another, one another, one another. Call them the one another's of scripture. If you want, send me an email.
I'll shoot you a copy of this. It's a great study for how we as Christians are supposed to live it out. But my main point for today is that it's not just for people on the payroll. It's for each and every one of us as Christians. And I think you guys know this, and our church generally does a pretty good job with this.
But what I'm calling you to is to excel still more. Go deeper into it. Take responsibility for the ministries of your church. Now as we apply it today, the simplest and most effective thing to do in terms of one another is when someone else is mourning, it's the ministry of presence. This is show up and listen, or if it helps you remember it, show up and shut up.
If you get no other practical advice from me today, it's that. When someone is suffering, show up and listen. Next, once you've done that, then you can be useful. Do whatever is in your gifting. Cook, clean, mow, repair, organize, pray, whatever it is.
But don't do the generic ask. Don't send them the text message, I'm sorry, I heard this. How can I help? You need to know that when someone is in suffering, their brain does not function the same way as ours, and I don't mean in a good way. They are basically incapable of creative thinking, and that's effectively what you're asking them to do when you say, How can I help?
Instead, the more effective way to go is, Hey, I'm going to cook you a meal. Would you like it tomorrow or the next day? That is incredibly helpful for someone that's going through it. Be just a little bit pushy in the way that you do it. If you tell them that you're praying for them, pray for them right then.
Don't just say, and this is true in general, church, if I could change one thing. Don't just say I'll be praying for you. Stop what you're doing right there. Pray for them. And then tell them how you prayed for them if you're not praying with them.
Like, if you're if you're in separate parts of the country or something, different houses. And then try and be discerning and wise and listen to the Holy Spirit for specific guidance on how to be best of service. You have the Holy Spirit in you. Listen to him. If you're in somebody's house and you notice something that is broken, that might be the Holy Spirit or it might just be the fact that you know how to fix something.
Either way, you can do that work. And then here's one where I'm preaching mostly to myself. Please don't feel the need to be profound. We need to know, all of us, that your brilliant insight or mind is not what's going to get somebody through suffering. You are not the solution to somebody suffering, God is.
But you can be a tremendous help. Do you understand the difference there? A word for me is not gonna be what gets somebody through suffering. But through love and presence and patience and prayer, I can help bring them closer to God, and God is their help. So just know that we're all gonna respond differently.
Because for true tragedies, like what was described in Job, things that seemingly don't have a real obvious meaning, You can end up in some combination of isolation, despair, anger, or just overwhelming loneliness. And each of those will need to be met and dealt with in their own stage. But if you're the helper, if you're if you're somebody that's coming alongside them, you probably don't need to be the one diagnosing and telling them about it. Just be aware of it. Help them move through it in time.
And you also don't need to correct every theological error that they say in their anger. That's not on you. Because some people, when they suffer, they do become incredibly selfish. They may try to hold on to pain as a way of protecting themselves from the outside world or from any more perceived pain. And some people never get over that feeling.
It drives them to become incredibly self absorbed. And others will become less self interested than they've ever been in their entire lives. And we've got to help them help both of them in that suffering. So maybe going on a walk with someone is helpful. Maybe bringing them a meal.
Maybe it's the feeling of just being loved and served and wanted. Or some people want to feel useful, and we can allow for that too. Maybe they wanna do a deep dive on Christian philosophy of suffering. Or maybe they just need a hug from a friend at church that lasts a lot longer than they expected to. But by the end of it, they feel like they can finally breathe even if just for a moment.
So what are some other common things not to do? First, and this is mine, don't throw the ninja star versus. These are the things that we all carry around like Romans eight twenty eight, like pull out the ninja star and we like whip it at somebody that's in suffering. We know that in old things, God works for the good of those who love movement called according to His purpose. It's not helpful, and it's my tendency.
Because all of these verses are filled with truth and are super helpful, and we should all memorize them. They should be life verses. But truth applied to an open wound can be incredibly painful. And so we have to be wise and discerning in it. Said another way, a helpful medicine given at the wrong time or in the wrong dose is no longer medicine, it's actually poison.
And we have to be wise in the way that we apply truth to suffering. And this is what Job's friends did wrong after they had previously sat around for seven days. Seven days. Any of you guys ever sat around with somebody without saying a word for seven days? You guys have seen me talk.
I get seven minutes. This is why Job called them miserable comforters. They were off to such a great start with just the showing up and the listening, but they had a tendency to rush to conclusions because they thought they knew what God was doing in that suffering, and they were wrong. But many of the things that they said can actually be true in certain circumstances. Man does reap what he sows.
God does bless the righteous sometimes. But to apply that carte blanche to somebody that's in suffering is a thin and shallow understanding of scripture. It's similar to the prosperity movement or the word of faith ridiculousness. And speaking of which, we need to do a small diatribe here because we all need to hear this, which is that similar to taking how how taking verses out of context can make you think wrongly that you can get a Gulfstream jet out of God, you or your friend's lack of healing is not a sign of doubt of faith. Just because you are not being delivered on the timeline that you think you should be, that is not a sign of your unfaithfulness.
Does that make sense? Hear me on that church. Because that's in our that's in our church culture. Is that if we would just believe enough, if we would just pray according to a formula, or if we would just pray with enough intensity or gnashing of teeth or rending of cloth or whatever it is, that God will then have to do what we want him to do. And that's not God.
That's a genie in a lamp. This is the creator and sustainer God of the universe. He is sovereign. He's not Aladdin. That's all I'll do on that for now, but it gets me fired up.
But to summarize, much of the modern approach of suffering is way too solution oriented. We want to, like, pull out the the the suffering checklist and go through all the steps and then rush ourselves or our friend out of suffering and back to normal life or real life. But the biblical view of suffering is that normal life or real life very much includes suffering. And so we don't need to rush through that. Instead, we we need to realize that real life is made deeper and more colorful by suffering as much as we hate it when we're in it.
Suffering is real. It is not a part of God's original design, but he uses it. He does not waste your suffering. So we can strive against that current and not rush through it. As review, when someone else is suffering, show up, listen, weep with those who weep, mourn with those who mourn, be a help, recognize that everyone will go through this differently.
Don't feel the need to be profound, and don't throw my ninja star verses. Give them time. In summary, love them as you would wanna be loved. The golden rule, after all, is an invention by Jesus Christ himself in teaching to his disciples. Now one more thing I'd be remiss not to mention before we move on is prayer.
And we could do a whole sermon series on prayer, especially for people that are suffering, and I hope we will one day. But a phrase that's been really helpful for me of late that I wanna share with you guys, and this is general, but it's also true for suffering, is that prayer does does not just aid the mission. In view of God's sovereignty, prayer is the mission. Prayer is not some last ditch effort. Oh, I guess all that's left is to pray about it.
It's like, oh, is it really that bad? You know, it's like, no, we go to prayer first because we trust in the sovereignty of God and the strength of God. It's not a Hail Mary. It's the it's the mission. So pray and tell them you're praying.
One one helpful thing that friends of mine have done for years that that I've I've adopted is I'll set a daily phone alarm for a specific time where the number correlates to a Bible verse that that might be helpful or applicable to the situation. I have some friends that are not reconciled with a child of theirs. It's a really hard situation. And every day, if you guys have been around me at 12:20 every day, my alarm goes off. If we're doing men's Bible study on Thursday, I tend not to interrupt.
But at any other day, like if I'm at lunch with somebody, believer or not, it's an opportunity for me to go, hey, that's my reminder alarm to pray for my friend. Can we just stop and pray for a minute? And if I'm with an unbeliever, don't expect them to pray. Who are they praying to? But I'm going to pray, and I'm going to tell you that I'm praying, and I'm going to touch base with you every once in a while and say, hey, I'm still praying for you at 12:20 every day.
Short. It's not in the King James, but God hears it. So that's it for taking care of somebody else. So moving on to our third scenario yourself. And this is the hardest one because this is the one that is basically prep work.
How do we prepare to be the ones that suffer? And for this, we're gonna look at Luke 21 where Jesus makes a promise to his disciples. He says, and this is not a fun promise, but you will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, and sisters, other relatives, and friends, and they will put some of you to death. And you will be hated by all people because of my name. And yet, not a hair of your head will perish.
By your endurance, you will gain your lives. Now I want to point out something. It's the two bits that are in yellow text there because I'd never caught this before. They will put some of you to death and yet not a hair of your head will perish. Did Jesus get lost in the middle of that?
Is he promising you a great head of hair in your casket? Or maybe 11AM, is he saying blessed are the bald in spirit? No. This is Jesus calling back to something that he talked about with with his disciples in Luke 12, where he said, our five sparrows not sold for 2 pennies and yet not one of them has gone unnoticed in the sight of God. But even the hairs of your head are all counted.
Do not fear. You are more valuable than a great number of sparrows. Jesus is saying here that you may very well die for your testimony. But we can trust in the fact that it has been ordained by God and that you will not experience the eternal perishing like we looked at last week in Luke 13 around the Tower Of Siloam. But to repeat, nothing, not even your martyrdom is apart from the sovereignty of God.
Now the flip side of this is actually a little bit more fun. And this is not related to suffering, but we need a little little bit of levity. You are immortal up until the very fat time that God has done with you. That's kind of cool. So you don't have to be afraid when you're flying on a plane that has turbulence.
You don't have to be afraid when you're exposed to heights or when you're persecuted or if I'm talking to me when I'm in incredibly tight spaces and can't move my elbows. It's a thing. You don't have to be afraid. This is the life hack, to use the modern vernacular, to anxiety. You are immortal up until the moment God calls you home.
That's freeing. Back to suffering. The big point here is to give yourself some grace on how to respond. You don't need to cast judgment on yourself in addition to everything else that is going on. Now, for example, for better or worse, I'm a natural fixer.
If you come to me with a problem, I'm going to give you three things to do, two books to read, and one change to your daily discipline. And then we can go ahead and set a calendar item on our phone for five days from now so that you can call me and thank me for how I've changed your life. It's just how I tend to be wired. But Christian maturity is recognizing that, recognizing that it's not helpful and actually that it's sin. So it's something I'm working on.
Ask Natalie how I'm doing. Because why it's not helpful is there's no one type of problem or suffering to be solved. You can look at the heroes of the Bible, for example, on this. Thinking about David, looking at just four examples from David's suffering and thinking about how different these were. One, his hard upbringing.
He fought lions in order to protect his sheep, and he was by himself in the midst of it. Fighting fighting lions by yourself, I think we can call some form of suffering. That's scared. His up his experience of being physically attacked and persecuted by Saul. His king wanted to kill him.
His discipline in being chastened by Nathan and by God after his adultery with Bathsheba, Or the uprising against his kingdom led by his very own son Absalom. Each of these was different, and yet the thing that made David a man after God's own heart was not that David continually sought the healing, but that David continually sought God. He recognized that God was sovereign. And so you see what God what David knew was most important was to lean into God, to be honest, to question him, to even let himself be angry at him, to not be ashamed to pray. We have this tendency in Christian circles to think that there are things that are not okay to say to God.
And for the counterpoint to that, I wanna point you to Psalm 22. Imagine you're sitting with somebody that's suffering, and they say what's written here in yellow. This is Psalm 22. My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me from the words of my groaning?
If somebody says that at men's Bible study, I'm gonna scoot my chair away from them just a little bit in case lightning comes down. But what you also need to know about Psalm 22 verse one right there is that's what Jesus cried out on the cross. We can say these things to God in humility, but you bring them to God. Or Psalm 13 is similar. How long, oh Lord, will you forget me forever?
How long will you hide your face from me? There's a bunch of other Psalms that are similarly helpful in times of sorrow. What I'm saying is, it's okay to be honest with God. The key part is to keep going back to him. And if you feel like you can't pray, then pray that prayer.
God, I don't know what to pray right now. Will you help me pray? I'm telling you church, God will answer that prayer. The Holy Spirit groans in us and gives us what to pray even when we can't form words. Or here it is in Psalm 34, where God promises to be especially near to those that are in suffering.
The Lord is near the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. If you've ever been crushed in spirit, turn to God. Guys, you are so loved by God that he sent his eternal and perfect son to die on the cross for you. That changes everything, even how we are in the midst of suffering. But as we saw, it's okay to doubt in those moments of trials.
You just bring your doubts to him. My favorite prayer in all of scripture is in Mark nine when the father of the dying child proclaims to Jesus, I believe, but help my unbelief. Pray that prayer, guys. He answers it. I believe, help my unbelief.
Because bitterness or greatness are basically your only options over time through suffering. It's not the storm that makes you stronger. It's your response to it. And that's not me quoting like a gym T shirt or something. Like, that that is that is biblically learned that bitterness or greatness are basically your only options as you come through suffering.
That's from Jonah. That's from David. It's from all the other examples of suffering that we use in the Bible. And it's okay to mourn, and our culture does a terrible job of this. We think it's okay to mourn for a week or so, and then it's right back to hedonism or ramp up productivity.
There is no biblical timeline for mourning. Some sweet believers that I knew back in Dallas, they lost a child. And they said it took them six months to laugh, and it took them two years to not feel guilty for laughing. That's a more biblical view of mourning and giving yourself the grace in it. That's why we call them emotional scars.
They're gonna be there forever. And even while they're healing, random things, and this is Hans told me this last week. He said he feels like he has scabs, and every once in a while, something just pulls up the scab. But it does get easier with time. Okay.
We now need to talk about one of the hardest commands in scripture, and it's related to suffering. But it's all over the place, so we can't ignore it. And it's how do we have joy in the trials? This is a common theme from Jesus, from all the writers in the New Testament. They all talk about it.
But what is it? What is joy in the trials? Because first, we need a definition of joy. Because worldly joy and joy given by the Holy Spirit are two very different things. To no one's surprise, I turned to John Piper on this.
Because here's his definition of Christian joy, and I can't do better. Christian joy is a good feeling in the soul produced by the Holy Spirit as he causes us to see the beauty of Christ in the word and in the world. So Christian joy supplied by the spirit looking upon Christ. And this is not something that we can white knuckle our way towards or that we can produce in a moment when we need it. This is something that is nurtured and cultivated over a lifetime of faithfulness, but we do so by looking at Christ.
So that when we are in the crucible of suffering, we can strive to just keep hold of that joy. Here's the best I can do at illustrating it. If I have the terrible misfortune of peak summer having to run an errand that brings me to Town Square. I'm walking across Town Square after having tried not to fight somebody for a parking spot. And I'm walking across Town Square and somebody sees me and goes, Hey, Brad.
And let's say, I don't know them. Hey, Brad, I heard you preach. You stink. It's going to bother me for a little bit. But I don't know them.
I don't know what axe they have to grind, what it is that made them mad, whatever. But let's say it's one of you guys. Let's say right after we adjourn today, and everybody did this after the nine. Walk up to me and go, You stink. It's going to bother me a little bit more if I think you mean it.
But how much more if it's somebody that I've been working with that I just know that I have in high respect, that's close to me, that knows me intimately? What if it's Ray or Carl or one of the other elders or my community group or my mentors? Or worst yet, what if it's Natalie? What if she says, hey, you suck. That's going to hurt me, and that's going to hurt me deeply.
Because the point is, closer I am to somebody, the more that I respect them and I'm confident in that respect, the more I'm giving them license to to wound me, to correct me, or to encourage me. Now, what if the creator God of the universe, what if the one who knew you before you were born in your entirety? What if the one who knits you together in your mother's womb? What if he, knowing all of your sins and failures, what if he still loved you? What if he told you that?
Wouldn't that change things? Or what if he showed you that he was so committed to loving you that he sent his eternal son? My point is that because of the gospel, because of the most powerful thing in the universe, it changes how we suffer. It changes and allows us to have joy in the trials if we would but train ourselves to look to it. Because every day, we draw nearer to unending joy, to an eternity with Christ.
But in the meantime, we're left here to do the work that God would have us do. So we work, we play, we laugh, we suffer. But we do also all of that with a deep rooted joy in Christ. So we don't have to pretend to be excited for the trial. We don't have to put on a happy face or pretend to smile our way through it.
We can let everyone know that we're grieving, but we don't grieve as those without hope. I talked last week about the shortest verse in the Bible, John 11. Who remembers it? See? Bible memorization.
But the point is Jesus wept. When he was on the cross, he wasn't smiling. He wasn't rejoicing, but he had a deep rooted joy in his heart because of his relationship with the father, and he brought that to the cross. We see this in Hebrews 12. Look only to Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross despising the shame.
Guys, he didn't sing happy songs of praise while he was on the cross. He said that verse one from Psalm 22, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? But he was deeply rooted in the joy, and he went to that cross because of you and because of me. Now if I tell you today that I'm let's say I have a billion dollars, and I tell you that I'm going to give it to you in a week's time. And you leave here and you're driving home and you have car trouble, car breaks down on side of the highway.
Are you going to lose your cool on the side of the highway? Or are you going to be pretty pretty neat about it? Or let's say tomorrow morning at work, you get called in, you chat with your boss, and you have the worst work review you've ever had. But you've got $1,000,000,000 coming in a week. You're sitting there going, I got like 4 days left of this job.
It's just not going to bother you. But if a loved one gets really sick or really hurt, if there's real suffering and grievance, you're still going to mourn with them. And that's with a billion dollars. That's a cheap example compared to Christ's love, but it's an easier illustration for us because it's what we know day to day. Or who can remember that first taste of romance?
Right? First time holding hands, first kiss, the first phone call, or the day that you exchanged your vows? Nothing could touch you except for real tragedy. And it helps us delineate how we suffer, what actually matters. What I'm saying is that the promise of what is to come and the reality of love experienced, it has huge implications on how we live day to day, including in our suffering.
What bothers us will change. We will have joy in the trials. But the promise that we've received is an eternity of joy and purpose and love in Jesus Christ. So we don't rejoice for the trials. We don't rejoice because of the trials.
But because of Christ, we can rejoice in them. So that's the prep and the application for how to deal with suffering. Everyone's gonna be a little bit different. Our recap, it's okay to feel distant or angry with God. Be honest with him.
He can take it. He's God. Don't isolate. Force feed yourself scripture to remind yourself of the truth. The Psalms are a great place to start.
Allow yourself to be helped. And remember above all that you are never alone. Jesus is with you, and God is doing something with you even if we have no idea what it is. Like I said at the start, to borrow from my friend Sam, how you experience and relate to suffering is entirely dependent on how you experience and relate to the cross. Said another way, and we'll close with this, is that we need to never forget there is another in the fire.
This is Daniel three. Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego replied to the king, Nebuchadnezzar, we are not in need of an answer to give you concerning this matter. If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to rescue us from the fire of blazing from the furnace of blazing fire. And he will rescue us from your hand, o king. But even if he doesn't, let it be known to you, o king, that we are not gonna serve your gods nor worship the golden statue you've set up.
When Nebuchadnezzar heard this, he was enraged at the furnace, cooked four times the normal temperature, had Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego thrown in. And then he sees them, and he goes, look, I see four men untied and walking about in the middle of the fire unharmed, and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods. He threw three men in, and there were four men in the fire. Church, you are not alone in the fire. Because you're suffering, and I'll invite the band back up.
But your suffering will probably not be as spectacular as being thrown into the fire. But there will be suffering in your life. Jesus has promised it for you, but he's also promised that no matter what, he will be with you always even to the end of the age. The confidence of the three in this story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego was not in the healing that God would provide, but in the fact that God was who he is. Said another way, it wasn't in the gift that would be provided, it was in the giver.
But also Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, they had each other. And first B, that's what we have. We also have each other. So we can be a help to those that are hurting. And we can draw strength from each other in the midst of a fiery trial.
Because, guys, the mortality rate of the diagnosis of being human is still a hundred percent. Suffering's coming. Jesus promised it. But there is hope, and it is worth so much more than a billion dollars. It is so much longer lasting than the fleeting moment of a first kiss.
It's an eternity with Christ. So we suffer, we grieve, we experience pain and loss, but we do not do so as those without hope. We live in light of the eternal life that is to come in Jesus. So when we go out these doors, when we go to live out our week of worship, we can be a light in such a dark place. And we can tell the entire world of the hope we have, and we can have a great week of worship.
Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2And would you stand with us? I think we're going to just end with the doxology today and then a closing verse. And I wanna end here with, second Corinthians one three to five. It's all praise to God, the father of our Lord Jesus Christ. God, our merciful father and source of all comfort.
I want you to catch this. He comforts us in our troubles so that we can comfort others with the same comfort that he has comforted us with. The more we suffer for Christ, the more God will shower us with a comfort through Christ. Lord, as we go from here, Lord, would these these truths of scripture, Lord, would your Holy Spirit comfort each of us? And we know that the comfort that we have been given from you, that we would comfort one another with that, Lord.
And to know that truly there is another in the fire, that we are not alone, that you are with us. Lord, would you help us to be a helping, healing church. In Jesus' name. Amen.

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